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A NEW DEVELOPMENT: THE BATTLE OF FOUR ARMIES

Alright, I would like to premise this theory first with a statement that I always thought that Luffy and his allies would ultimately clash with the World Government and the Marines at the final war (excluding the final battle with Blackbeard)

But, some developments happened along the way and kinda made me think of possibilities so, I would get this out of the way immediately:

The Marines (at least some of them) would breakaway from the World Government and execute a Coup d’Etat.

Now this faction would be very different from the Revolutionaries.

The Revolutionaries wanted to overthrow the government and got no problem affiliating themselves with outside forces like Pirates.

But the Breakaway Marines (we will refer to them as X-Marines) are the guys who still detest pirates, the same way they detest the World Government.

There are several instances in the manga why this thought came to my mind.

First is the apparent disappointment of the Fleet Admiral over the decision of the World Government.
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Second is the desire of Admiral Fujitora to defy the government privateers called “Shichibukai” system and his obvious disdain for the World Government.
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Now, the other reasons I have are just a speculations, but I believe I got good grounds for it..currently in Zou arc, some parts of Sanji’s backstory had been revealed, and it was said that this “Vinsmoke Family”, which Sanji is a relative of, leads a group called “Warhouse / Germa Double Six”

Now with the involvement of Capone “Gang” Bege, who obviously had been inspired from Al Capone, a famous Mafia Leader, it would be fair to assume that Capone was hired to bring the news to Sanji by another Mafia Group.

Which is kinda confirmed in a way because they are said to be a “Family of Assassins”, well either way, moving on….

With “Germa 66” name as well, I would assume that Oda used this name in order to reference a group/organization from the movie “Kill Bill”, by Quentin Tarantino (Oda loves Tarantino Films)

The Crazy 88, which is led by a Mafia Leader / Underworld Leader.

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(wouldnt be surprised if the Vinsmokes hide their faces like this to hide the eyebrows. LOL.)

I’ll dive into this topic in another theory (and Germa 66 connection to a card game), but lets just say, the head of Vinsmoke Family lured Sanji into doing what he wants by using someone Sanji loves as a bait.

The point i’m trying to make (which is kinda confusing coz I rambled on) is that the Vinsmoke Family is a Mafia Family.

I’ll just get straight to the point.

Each of the Gorosei leads their own organizations, so that makes it 5 organizations including the Germa 66 and Cipher Pol.

Simply said, in the game of chess, those 5 organizations are the real “guys” of the World Government.

The Marines?: Pawns, disposable pawns who always get fronted in battle and dont know the real “identities” of the World Government, especially the Gorosei.

So I believe some Marines would breakaway from the World Government and start a new faction.

So in the final war, we have:

1. The Strawhat Pirates and its Grand Fleet.
2. The Blackbeard Pirates and its Grand Fleet.
3. The World Government (Science Division, Germa 66, Cipher Pol etc.)
4. X-Marines.

And yes, I don’t believe the Red Hair Pirates and the Revolutionaries would be there for the Final War…

*Theory by beck

A THEORY ABOUT SANJI’S SOLO ARC, BIG MOM, PUDDING AND BONNEY

In this theory I will be discussing the possible events of Sanji’s solo arc, the whole deal with Big Mom and these weird thing called “Tea Party”
So first, let’s start with this line:

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And this one too:

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If you guys, noticed, Akainu and Brook both mentioned they had “a chill run down their spine”, i’ll just be straightforward about it.

I believe Akainu is referring to Bonney being Big Mom’s daughter. (Akainu have no idea about the wedding) and this indicates that Bonney seemed to have already been caught by the Marines before.

While Brook was referring to his familiarity to the Vinsmoke Family, a famous Mafia group.

And this Vinsmoke Family, I believe is led by the blonde guy, from the Gorosei.

Remember that Brook is around 90 years old, so this means that whoever this Vinsmoke is should be around for quite a few decades in power.

Which by logical assumption is the Gorosei.

And both of them (Sanji and Bonney), had been wanted all along by both the World Government and the Charlotte Family for one and one thing only.

A Marriage.
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Sanji and Bonney are “supposed” to be wed by the Vinsmoke and Charlotte Family, it’s the reason why Bonney currently hiding right now.
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So reason why I said “supposedly” is because right now, Bonney is not gonna marry Sanji, but the 35th daughter of Big Mom.

Pudding, which I suppose is this girl.
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It’s probably safe to assume that Big Mom’s “daughters” aren’t biological. come on.

Well, I assume the “Mafia” identity of the Gorosei is most probably a secret to marines, so they wouldn’t know it, I believe this marriage would start a “secret” alliance between the Charlotte Family and the Gorosei.

As I said before in my previous theories, I said that Kaido is actually “secretly” affiliated with the World Government as well, and I think the Gorosei are trying to do the same thing with Big Mom.

The World Government using Doflamingo and Caesar to ally with Kaido, while they are using “Marriage” to ally with Big Mom.

I’ll just stop here coz this is not my main theory.

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Anyway, I’ll assume that Bonney probably ran away from Big Mom after she was forced to marry someone (probably a Tenryuubito) because it’s Ace’s “D” (if you know what I mean) who Bonney really likes to get.

So after Bonney ran away, Pudding was next in line.

Now some backstory speculation, the Mafia Gorosei impregnated a woman in North Blue (Roger did that, so its open season) and of course their son turned out to be Sanji.

In order to keep them separated (because he is a douchebag who dont care about having a son) the Mafia Gorosei sent Sanji to East Blue , while her mom stayed in Marijoies (or North Blue)

Obviously by crossing over Red Line, a feat only someone like a resident of Marijoies could perform.

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Probably Capone just joined Big Mom Pirates in order to find Sanji because he is actually either a subordinate or an ally group of the Vinsmoke Family.

Personally, I believe Capone and Crocodile are the real partners and Capone is just tasked in finding Sanji and Crocodile in finding Bonney.

Of course i’m inclined to think that them two got their own Mafia Group apart from Vinsmokes.

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Alright, so let’s now discuss what I think would happen in Sanji’s Arc. (Assuming he gets one)

Firstly, I dont believe Sanji would get saved by the Strawhats (that’s so Robin) and secondly, Luffy and Zoro already expressed their full trust in Sanji.

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What I think would happen, is that these 2 arcs (Sanji’s Arc and Zou Arc) would be told interchangeably at the same time, in which both parties would lead to Wano-Kuni Arc.

And ultimately to the fall of Kaido.

There’s no doubt in my mind now that Big Mom’s pirate crew, will end up being an ally of the Strawhat Grand Fleet after the Sanji Arc.

And this same Sanji Arc would bring back and introduce some big time players, as well as the Zou Arc.

Rather than going rounds in circles, i’ll just provide you on who I think would be the characters that would comprise of Sanji’s team:

1. Black Leg Sanji
2. Smoker
3. Tashigi
4. Absalom
5. Gecko Moriah
6. Jewelrey Bonney
7. X-Drake
8. Jinbe
9. Pekoms
10. Pudding
11. Crocodile

These are people who would get introduced and re-introduced in Sanji’s Arc:
1. Dr. Vegapunk
2. Sentoumaru
3. Big Mom (obviously)
4. Pudding (obviously too)
5. Admiral Kizaru
6. Capone Bege
7. Crocodile
8. The Blonde Gorosei

Caesar would be taken away by Admiral Kizaru, while Vegapunk will reveal himself as one of the Revolutionary Leaders and leave the World Government.

The end of this arc would be Big Mom ending up as an ally of Sanji and the Strawhat Pirates.

Sanji’s team would come with him in Wano and merge with Luffy’s team.

While in Wano, Fujitora, Sengoku and Tsuru would also be involved. Ryukogyu would be introduced.

I actually have a scenario in mind but I know Oda-sensei would think of something better so I just left things like this.

*Theory by beck

MONKEY D. DRAGON’S MYTHICAL DF POWER AND THE ONEPIECE WORLD

So theres a lot of theories to what kind of power does Dragon have, but they all fail for me and then i saw this. A Philippine Mythology about a dragon called “Bakunawa” first lets see what wiki says about it.

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It appears as a giant sea serpent with a mouth the size of a lake, a red tongue, whiskers, gills, small wires at its sides, and two sets of wings, one is large and ash-gray while the other is small and is found further down its body.

Myth#1
Tales about the Bakunawa say that it is the cause of eclipses. During ancient times, Filipinos believe that there are seven moons created by Bathala (Gods) to light up the sky. The Bakunawa, amazed by their beauty, would rise from the ocean and swallow the moons whole, angering Bathala and causing them to be mortal enemies.

To keep the moons from completely being swallowed by the Bakunawa, ancient Filipinos would go out of their homes with pans and pots, and would make noise in order to scare the Bakunawa into spitting out the moon back into the sky. Some of the people in the villages would play soothing sounds with their musical instruments, in hopes that the dragon would fall into a deep sleep. Thus, the brave men of the village hoped that while the dragon was hypnotized by the musical sounds they could somehow slay the dragon. Although the dragon was known as a “moon eater” it was also known as a “man eater”.

Other tales tell that the Bakunawa has a sister in the form of a sea turtle. The sea turtle would visit a certain island in the Philippines in order to lay its eggs. However, locals soon discovered that every time the sea turtle went to shore, the water seemed to follow her, thus reducing the island’s size. Worried that their island would eventually disappear, the locals killed the sea turtle.

When the Bakunawa found out about this, it arose from the sea and ate the moon. The people were afraid so they prayed to Bathala to punish the creature. Bathala refused but instead told them to bang some pots and pans in order to disturb the serpent. The moon is then regurgitated while the Bakunawa disappeared, never to be seen again.

The island where the sea turtle lays its eggs is said to exist today. Some sources say that the island might just be one of the Turtle Islands.

Myth#2

Others tell how the Bakunawa fell in love with a human girl in one of the native tribes. The head of the tribe found out about their affair and had their house burned to ashes. The Bakunawa, finding out about this, became immersed in anger and tried to take revenge by eating all the 7 moons. When the Bakunawa was about to eat the last one, Bathala took action and punished the Bakunawa by banishing it from its home away from the sea. It also tells that the reason of the eclipses is how the Bakunawa is trying to come back to its home and deceased family.

Some Filipino elders Bakunawa is a moving isle with communities mounted at the back, it is said to believe that has 2 classification the flying Bakunawa and the land Bakunawa.

My thoughts to what connection the bakunawa had to do with dragon and the onepiece world#

“Tales about the Bakunawa say that it is the cause of eclipses. During ancient times, Filipinos believe that there are seven moons created by Bathala (Gods) to light up the sky. The Bakunawa, amazed by their beauty, would rise from the ocean and swallow the moons whole, angering Bathala (Gods)and causing them to be mortal enemies.”

1. In Onepiece world it was showed that there are actually only 6 planets in Onepiece but even though it was only 6 its still closed to the myth.

2.What if Oda didnt really connected it to the planets? What if its actually representing the 7 Warlords- Seven Moons? And Monkey D. Dragon is the chosen one to overthrew the warlord treaty not just that the whole world goverment.

3. “Bathala” which means Gods in english is actualy referring to the Gorosei?

“Other tales tell that the Bakunawa has a sister in the form of a sea turtle. The sea turtle would visit a certain island in the Philippines in order to lay its eggs. However, locals soon discovered that every time the sea turtle went to shore, the water seemed to follow her, thus reducing the island’s size. Worried that their island would eventually disappear, the locals killed the sea turtle.
When the Bakunawa found out about this, it arose from the sea and ate the moon. The people were afraid so they prayed to Bathala to punish the creature. Bathala refused but instead told them to bang some pots and pans in order to disturb the serpent. The moon is then regurgitated while the Bakunawa disappeared, never to be seen again.”

1. What if for some reason how the locals killed the sea turtle (which is bakunawa’s sister) in Onepiece World Monkey D.Dragon sister… Was with the help of Gorosei? Because how can the locals kill a huge island turtle? Unless they had a devine protection from the gods.

2. The reason why Monkey D. Dragon probably wants to overthrow the world goverment is because of her sister?

Myth#2

“Others tell how the Bakunawa fell in love with a human girl in one of the native tribes. The head of the tribe found out about their affair and had their house burned to ashes. The Bakunawa, finding out about this, became immersed in anger and tried to take revenge by eating all the 7 moons. When the Bakunawa was about to eat the last one, Bathala took action and punished the Bakunawa by banishing it from its home away from the sea. It also tells that the reason of the eclipses is how the Bakunawa is trying to come back to its home and deceased family.

Some Filipino elders Bakunawa is a moving isle with communities mounted at the back, it is said to believe that has 2 classification the flying Bakunawa and the land bakunawa”

[Others tell how the Bakunawa fell in love with a human girl in one of the native tribes. The head of the tribe found out about their affair and had their house burned to ashes. The Bakunawa, finding out about this, became immersed in anger and tried to take revenge by eating all the 7 moons. When the Bakunawa was about to eat the last one] 1. What if Dragon fell in love to luffy’s mom but for some reasons was killed by the World Goverment for some reason. Which made Dragon awakened and declared war to the world goverment head on.

[The Bakunawa, finding out about this, became immersed in anger and tried to take revenge by eating all the 7 moons. When the Bakunawa was about to eat the last one, Bathala took action and punished the Bakunawa by banishing it from its home away from the sea. It also tells that the reason of the eclipses is how the Bakunawa is trying to come back to its home and deceased family.] 2. Dragon will eventually weakens the world goverment but in the end when the Gorosei starts to move themselves to fight Dragon, he will eventually gets defeated?

[Some Filipino elders Bakunawa is a moving isle with communities mounted at the back, it is said to believe that has 2 classification the flying Bakunawa and the land bakunawa” ] 3. Monkey D. Dragon actually have 2 or more forms when he uses his df? Air type, land type, or both

*Theory by -Xavier-

TREASURE OF MARIEJOIS AND JOY BOY’S PAST

I think some of you people forgot that Celestial Dragons and Gorosei posses some kind of national treasure
What could it be ?

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I really couldn’t find any clue about this national treasure,so i will say my opinions
Some say it is eternal log pose to Raftel..which is stupid because then why don’t World Government take that and go get it,some say it’s location of One Piece,again it’s weird,some say it’s key of Uranus(to use Uranus you have to have a key) or even Uranus,which might be,but still we don’t know anything about Uranus – some say that Uranus has teleportation power,it could be,but Uranus has to have some powers that can destroy the world,so maybe with that key it could teleport you anywhere and destroy a lot

Anyway let’s start with Celestial Dragons..why are the people afraid of them and why does the World Government even listen to them..they’re weak and useless..but what if it is not the case and they don’t listen to them because they are descendents of creators of WG..what if they posses some kind of weapon that could easily destroy the world

That national treasure could also be Egg Roger had,but i doubt that because that would mean he had to get it on Mariejois and Gorosei would probably attack him and he would die
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Which leaves me now for the last opinion..Tree of life
We already saw Tree of Adam and Tree of Knowledge – and it’s said that Trees in Eden are Gods treasure – his garden..also Tree of Adam is called Treasure Tree of Adam
Tree of life grows fruit every 10 years and when you eat it,it will grant you immortality
Doflamingo knew about this and used it somehow to escape from Mariejois – he said he would destroy the tree if they don’t let him go away – there was no fruit on it so he couldn’t eat it from it,my guess is that he returned to Mariejois to eat it and gain immortality,but he failed(he also asked from Law for immortality) – also he said when people find out about this it will shake up the world – when people find about it everyone would try to gain the immortality,which would cause chaos
Foreshadow
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It’s said that National treasure when used with Ope Ope no Mi could grant the ability to destroy the world – Ope Ope no Mi is one of the devil fruits which reduces persons life – with that tree,user could use Ope infinite time without dying which would be crazy strong – i think Ope Ope no Mi is first devil fruit to be ever created and originally was supposed to be used with Tree of Life
Also Tree of Life is a forbidden tree – no one is allowed to eat from it
Gorosei are immortal because they ate from the tree because to World Government they represent Gods
The devil would be the “D” and they tried to tricked someone to bring them that fruit..
that person was Joy Boy
But instead he ate from the tree and returned to “D”‘s and said he ate it,so D’s made him their king..king of ancient kingdom – in this case D represent the Devils and Joy Boy represents the Eve and my guess would be Joy Boy had a brother who represents the Adam – Joy Boy is younger one
Now God was angered and he wanted to banish them from that world – Gods(WG) tried to kill Joy Boy(note-war didn’t start because of the tree,war was lasting even before that),but it was impossible and war was lasting too long and Ancient Kingdom decided to make weapons – Joy Boy was smart,they used it and had more chances of winning the war,but something happened…Joy Boy’s brother died..or he thought so..which made Joy Boy have feelings like he doesn’t care anymore and it made him lose the war and the result would be everyone he knows death..Joy Boy later apologized to Poseidon for failing and that it was his mistake that his emotions overtook him..and Joy Boy was captured and is still held there somewhere by Gorosei,but before he was captured he made another weapon that would revive everyone who died because of him..but he couldn’t use it,he didn’t have the last piece of it,the One Piece
As i said his brother was dead,but he wasn’t actually,he was captured and he escaped..later he also ate fruit from the tree and hid himself on the island called Raftel and he is now there protecting the weapon created by his brother and Joy Boy’s brother is the Rio Poneglyph and he created every other poneglyph – except Joy Boy’s one – Roger could’ve used the weapon to revive everyone,but it would only cause WG to find out about location of Raftel and it would cause another war which would result in death of everyone,again – first he needed to find every ancient weapon,but he didn’t have every one of them and to find every other ancient weapon it would take him some time,which he didn’t have

I believe Luffy will find one of the ancient weapons,but as he is reckless he will revive everyone from the ancient kingdom,which would cause huge war..later Poseidon will come which would be second weapon and if Elbaf theory is true – that they have Uranus ..they will come too with that weapon
Ending of One Piece will be Joy Boy apologizing to his people and thanking Luffy
and there will be a black screen that will say 500 years later – Usopp telling the stories to kids :)

Sorry for the long post..i hope you liked this,if it makes any sense..and also tell me what you think that Mariejois’s National Treasure is

*Theory by Doctor Room

THE CELESTIAL DRAGON’S TREASURE; WHY THEY NEED BONNEY AND HOW DOFFY WAS GOING TO UTILIZE IT

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From what Doffy said, we know that the CD’s have some sort of treasure, furthermore if the public knew about this treasure it would be bad for the WG. Why don’t the CD’s want the public to know about the treasure? Well i believe that this is because this treasure is actually the ancient weapon Uranus. Now what does it do?? Well i believe Uranus works very similar the the weapon “Etherion” from Fairy Tail

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Etherion is a magic weapon that has the ability to create a destructive beam of light that can target any location. I believe that Uranus is very similar; i think Uranus has the ability to launch powerful laser beams which will target any location. This means that even if you are on the complete opposite side of the planet, you will still be inside the range of Uranus. This makes a lot of sense if Uranus utilized lasers, since Uranus is the God of the sky’s and heavens and light is often associated with heaven and sky. However, i believe their is a downside to using Uranus, that being: Uranus will drain the life of it’s user making them age considerably or die. Now this is the reason why the government needs two devil fruits, these fruits belong too:

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First Law; Law has the ability to make anyone immortal. This is why Doflamingo needed the Ope Ope no mi too use immortality surgery on him; by being immortal, Doffy would have the ability to use Uranus without any side affects, making Doffy have equal power too that of a Yonko. The government also needs Bonney; as you know, Bonney’s fruit allows her to alter her age. This means that even if she becomes old due to the affects of Uranus, she can become a child again and use her power too keep on spamming Uranus. This is why the government wants her; many people speculate the the government wants her so that she can make the Gorosei young again, however i believe that is one part of the reason they want her. It is very likely that their is at least one person in the Gorosei that has no devil fruit and is a haki master; i believe that the WG wants to kill Bonney and steal her DF so that one of the Gorosei can eat it. If one of the Gorosei eats that DF, they would be immortal since they would never be old; furthermore they can now easily spam the ability of Uranus without having to sacrifice the lives of slaves and other people.

*Theory by knaal

STAWHATS WON’T FACE CP0, THE WAR ON MARIJOIES AND CIPHER POL’S TRUE ENEMIES

In this theory I will discuss about the CP0 and Straw Hats in the EOS.

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Cipher Pol Zero of the World Government

Let’s talk about the ending of One Piece, the war on Marijoies. In this war, the Straw Hat crew and many allies will face against the Government; from the Cipher Pols to the Fleet Admiral Sakazuki. Many think that the CP0 will face against these guys

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But I actually believe the CP0 true enemies will be against Dragon and the rest of the RA

The reason why I think the Straw Hats won’t battle them is because they already are dealing with many enemies. The CP0 are destined to be extreme powerhouses and definitely ensure their enemies much trouble, correct? Well, why would Oda design them to have a battle with the Straw Hats. With the battle against Kaido and the Yonkou coming up, where are we going to get time for a full-out brawl between the Straw Hats and CP0. And, because of the CP0 speculated-power, we’re going to most likely need a whole arc for the straw hats to battle them. Wouldn’t that destroy the whole time flow of the series?

I think the CP0’s strengths will probably be hinted soon in the series, but a battle from them will be fully shown with the RA in the final war.

So basically I think that the SH will be fighting in the war, and then Dragon will come and blow away a CP (The agent could be leaping up to Luffy, and then Dragon attacks him right before Luffy gets hit) like very far away with a super attack. This will give time for Luffy to talk to Dragon and then Dragon to quickly show his son his powers in a super battle against the CP. While he does that the things will continue normally and etc. There will most likely be more than just 3 CP0 agents, so they might have battles with every member of the RA. Or Dragon might take them all on and unleash his full capability and also show the power of CP, and maybe some other people will help Dragon out because CP have to be very powerful.

Maybe Dragon will fight against a Gorosei or Fleet Admiral. But we all want Luffy to fight Sakazuki, right?

*Theory by Red Beard