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IS KILLER THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THE KID ALLIANCE?

I was wondering who came up with the idea of Kid alliance. Was it Kid or Killer?

Eustass Captain Kid seems like a crazy maniac who is too proud to form an alliance. He focus on strength and believes only the strong deserves to be a pirate in the New World. He crucified Haritsu Kendiyo because of having weak resolve.

He is also short-tempered and can be easily provoked. He picked fight with Apoo because Apoo was staring at him!!

It seems a little out of his character to plan an alliance to survive in the New World.

Now, lets focus on Killer. Killer is the only member of the worst generation other than Zoro who doesnt have a devil fruit and who is not the captain of the crew. His position in the crew is unknown, but he is the only other member of the Kid pirates who stands out than the rest. He doesnt add any honorifics and calls Kid by his name. The third Kid pirate who got a few panel time is Heat (probably the 3rd strongest member of the crew). He calls Kid as master/captain, but Killer doesnt.


Its pretty obvious that Killer has some special relation with Kid. He is the one who guides Kid and the member Kid listens to.


He clearly has better knowledge as shown when he informed Kid about the Ox Bell.


He is also calm unlike Kidd. He called Luffy, Law and Kid short tempered in Sabaody.


Their personality indicates that the idea of forming an alliance didnt come from Kidd’s brain. It came from Killer. Its also evident that Kid didnt want to include Apoo in the alliance. But Killer invited Apoo regardless of Kid’s objection.

He was negotiating with Hawkins and was shouting at both Kid and Apoo to stop fighting.


Its also really interesting that declaration of their target came from Killer!

Once again it portrays him as the real mastermind and strategist behind Kid alliance.

The question is why Killer came up with the plan of forming the alliance. Is it only to make Kid one of the top pirates of NW? I think Killer came up with the idea so that Kid doesnt get killed easily. Kid was surely going ham after entering NW. He was picking fight even against yonkos.

I think somewhere along the line Kid fought against a top fighter and nearly got killed. As you might have noticed, someone fucked Kid up during the timeskip. He lost his arm and look at the scar on his face, body and another arm.

Thats when Killer thought Kid will die if he continues to fight in this way with only their crew. So he formed the alliance with his own initiative and is probably the main strategist of the alliance. Please share your thoughts.

*Theory by Nidai_Kitetsu

    What Will Happen To The Kid Alliance

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    I don’t even think it’ll happen at all but sometimes i just like to think about how One Piece could go. So remember i don’t think this will happen at all i just thought of something.

    So throughout the series the supernovas have basically been used as pirate crews going on the same type of journey as the Strawhats but just yknow different. This is even more apparent with Law and Kid’s crew. Luffy and Kid even have the same exact goal, although how they go about completing it is basically opposites from one another, and with the revelation that the Kid/Hawkins/Apoo alliance is going to fight Shank’s crew i just started thinking about what would happen.

    So i think they will obviously fail in some regard, and they definitely won’t take down the Red Hair Pirates but they are three strong pirate crews so they may get some stuff done (i don’t really wanna actually speculate on the actual battle between the crews too much because we dont really have a basis to predict things). Imagine though that Kid eventually fights with Shanks himself. Shanks seems like they kind of guy that even though Kid is strong he wouldn’t go all out on him or kill him ever. Also, we’ve seen in the past that Kid even though he has killed a lot of people can show his respects to certain people depending on the circumstance. He did this with Luffy when he figured out Luffy and Kid’s goals we’re the same. So i don’t think Kid will want to kill shanks or anything especially when they fight and talk like manga/anime fight tend to do, and i don’t think Shanks is the type to hold a grudge or beat up kid that badly either.

    So imagine if the Kid/Hawkins/Apoo alliance fight bravely against Shank’s crew even to the point of impressing everyone there (maybe even taking out a few lower leveled guys like Rockstar) but they of course end up defeated (It’s a Yonko crew and one of the strongest at that). Maybe they make a small dent but don’t do much. Kid would be angry of course but after Kid and Shanks battle Shanks and his crew would stand triumphant while the alliance would feel defeated and saddened. Shanks would pull a nice guy protagonist move and extend his hand out, tell them they were strong and brave, maybe even have a feast with them like OP characters do. Kid would even start to respect Shanks even more Especially Shank’s is the type of guy that followed his dreams no matter what anyone said, which is the type of guy Kid respect. The two crews would feast they and laugh and Kid would end up before the feast is over looking up to Shanks as a role-model.

    This is where my thoughts came together though, and it sort of ties in with a lot of other theories. Imagine if at this time the Blackbeard pirates attacked the Red Hair Pirates, with the wounded K/H/A Alliance on board and around in their ships. Maybe they even heard of the K/H/A alliance and figured out about he their plans to attack Shank’s Crew. Shank’s crew would be wounded from the battle before, not by much but they’re still not 100%. Shank’s also seems like a nice guy, a protector, he even lost his arm for luffy and protected Coby and the rest of the Whitebeard pirates at marineford. So imagine if Shank’s loses and dies to Blackbeard because of his wounded crew but most importantly because during the battle he was trying his best to protect the wounded alliance members but mainly Kid Himself. It would tie in perfectly for Shank’s character and would go along with the “Shank’s will die” and “Blackbeard will kill Shank’s theories”, But also it would give Kid so much development for his character. He would feel the same pain Luffy felt but even worse. To him it would be all his fault that Shanks died protecting him from Blackbeard. Kid would start to follow more in Shanks footsteps, he’d be less of the rabid dog/kill everyone that laughs at me type and instead a gentler protecting gallant type like Shanks. Kid would vow to defeat Blackbeard and maybe even afterwards Kid would Join with Luffy for the End goal of killing/fighting Blackbeard.

    I know all this is a little far fetched and I don’t expect it to happen but hey anything is possible.

    Tl;dr Kid’s Alliance will lose to Shank’s Crew. Kid will gain intense respect for Shanks while Shank’s tells him he fought well and will congratulate Kid and his alliance. The Blackbeard Pirates will attack Shanks and his crew at that time and Shanks will die protecting Kid and his alliance.

    *Theory by AmishxNinja